Mad About Flat Earth

Wow do some people really get mad about flat earth. We first noticed this with feedback on facebook from friends. Then one of my wife’s family members accused her of being in a cult and said, “you can call and talk, but just don’t bring up that flat earth. I don’t want to hear about it anymore.”
We witnessed some turmoil in a marriage of a lay pastor and his wife, when we traveled to a town an hour and a half away. We had to travel that far to attend a church preached by a flat earth believer. We’re still praying for them.
Then I sent a message the that Steve ******** pastor on Youtube. He has a lot of good teaching on youtube. His stuff seems to be right-on. He proclaims his philosophy is to take the bible literally and, for the most part, that is what he does. I just can’t wrap my head around how he can be so opposed to flat earth, yet take the bible literally everywhere else. It just doesn’t make sense. I’ll probably never have an answer to that question, since the flat earth topic is now “off-limits” with his ministry. Since when is any subject off limits with a pastor, who is ordained to provide guidance in all areas of a person’s life? Maybe I am lost on this subject and need him to provide me with biblical proof that the earth is a ball. I’d love to hear that doctrine. I just don’t think a biblical argument can be presented. Thus, I am presented instead with anger.
I knew Steve’s stance on flat earth when I sent the following message (below). I just wanted to check whether he had rethought it.

 

On Feb 25, 2018 7:23 PM, Jon wrote:

Steve,

 
My wife and I greatly appreciate your work. You are a talented, intelligent man of God.
 
Much of my family live in your area, Therefore my wife and I spend much time in your area. We will make an effort to attend your church next time we are in town.
 
Anyway, though we did see your video describing flat earth as untruth, we would love to see you rethink that one. Have you?
 
Respectfully,
Jon
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 0:10, Steve’s staffer wrote:
Hi Jon,
 
He has not changed.
 
Chris ******
Proverbs 3:7
Assistant To Pastor ********

 

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Jon wrote:

Steve,

 

I had intended to send my previous message from my personal account, this account.

 
I read the scripture provided in your staff member’s reply to me below. Proverbs 3:7. Does that mean you (Steve) are trusting the Lord for the answer to the flat earth question and not leaning on your own understanding? Perhaps the Lord has spoken to you regarding this.
 
We appreciate your unapologetic,  literal approach to your bible teaching. We are captivated by your passion for the word. We have tremendous respect for your knowledge and intellect. We feel that your material on the internet is doing much good; shining a light among much darkness.
 
My wife and I will be visiting your church in the near future. Please keep in mind that we are real people and would treasure a reply from you, personally.
 
Thank you,
Jon
On Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 11:36:43 AM PST, Steve’s staffer wrote:
 
 
Hi Jon,

He has not CHANGED HIS POSITION. I promise you we will let you know if he ever does through our YouTube channel. Proverbs 3:7 is my signature verse. I send it on every email. Pastor Anderson is not searching, nor wants to talk to anyone who is a flat earth believer. If you want to visit us we have no problem with that. I will warn you that he WILL NOT TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE FLAT EARTH, NOR DOES HE LET PEOPLE COME IN AND SPREAD THAT GARBAGE. He will not talk to people about subjects he has already preached on. As you very well know he has made it clear in many sermons why he doesn’t believe in the flat earth theory. If you come here and we feel you are trying to cause confusion and contention we WILL REBUKE YOU SHARPLY AND THROW YOU OUT OF THE CHURCH IN FRONT OF EVERYONE.

God bless,

Bro. Chris ******
Psalm 84:11
Assistant To Pastor ********

 

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Jon wrote:

Chris,

 
Flat earth was not the primary reason for me contacting Steve. It was just a curiosity I had. My primary purpose was to provide him feedback and encouragement, which I clearly and thoughtfully expressed in my previous two messages.
 
I see this is a hot-button subject for your ministry. I had not expected that or any other subject would be off-limits. I will make no further mention of it. Also, I would never deliberately cause confusion; disrupt or undermine the message in anyone’s home, office, church, etc. That is his domain and I respect that.
 
Thank you so much for your reply and God bless you, Steve and your ministry.
On Tuesday, February 27, 2018, 1:19:07 PM, Steve’s staffer wrote:

Hi Jon,

Thanks for the heads up. Feel free to visit anytime. 
Bro. Chris

 


 

Beware of False Gospels

!!! Talk about a warning !!!
!! Beware of false Gospels !!

“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast down to hell and delivered into chains of darkness to be reserved unto judgment;
And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned with an overthrow, making an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed righteous soul from day to day with unlawful deeds;
The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man’s voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
For when they speak great swelling of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.”
2 Peter 2 King (KJV)